Single graded pages... how do you feel about it? Post your pages here!17653

Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111
I think I'd rather own a steaming pile of ungraded horsesh&t, than this.
At least a common housefly would find value with the steaming pile.

Nahhh, we haven't transferred too much power and control to the grading companies. Nope - not at all.

Originally Posted by ticktocktyler
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Originally Posted by Gaard
Right?

Hypothetical...
Let's say single pages had as much value as Abe's napkin. It didn't add any value to your collection. How many people who now say they love them, would suddenly not want them? If some peeps still wanted them for the 'coolness' of them, I actually applaud them. It's not my cup of tea, but I can't tell people what they should like.

But would you tell them if you could? LOL! For example, YOU don't determine the value of MY collection. I DO. And vice versa, right?

So, what exactly is "value"? Money? Coolness factor? Both? I took shit from some bozo on the CGC forum for buying one of those free flyers we used to get from our LCS. Paid like $20 for the 1st printed appearance of Red Hulk. Why did I do that? Well?

Because the coolness factor is worth something and the seller refused to give it away. I even messaged him and wrote "Yeah but there's some bozo on the CGC forum who is calling me a moron for attempting to buy something that is 'garbage' and was initially given away for free."

Seller didn't care. Not one tittle. He pointed out there were plenty of Superman giveaways like Superman-Tim in the 1940's and 1950's and no one is giving them away either. So, I bought the 1st printed appearance of Red Hulk. Someday, some effing genius will say "YAH! Dis is dah firss appearance of Red Hulk!" and collectors will go bonkers. 20 years ahead of you, dude.

In fact, if a Hulk movie is made in the near future and it has Red Hulk in it and it's a smash hit, both the book and eventually that flyer will go through the roof. The flyer not as much or quickly. But it will.

MY mistake was previously I had spoken out of my neck for others collecting stuff that I deemed "worthless". When I bought the Red Hulk flyer, I realized I was wrong and that and I shouldn't have said that. I buy stuff that gives me that shot of dopamine. Stuff I love for its uniqueness of niche factor. And what I call the "Look what EYE have!" factor. Bragging rights. Some of that are major pieces. Some are minor. Nothing feels better than sharing a cool piece of paper with a fellow collector.

I digress. My point is collect what makes you happy. BuffJake09 is making that point. Why should I give a rusty crap what other collectors think I should want or don't want in their collections? I would have a lot of nerve to dictate what they like or don't like back to them. It ISN'T JUST ABOUT THE MONEY VALUE.

One dude I know has a massive PEZ collection. At 1st, I was like "PEZ?" until I really LOOKED at his collection then I began wanting PEZ dispensers. He even had the first few PEZ releases complete with the whatever-goes-in-a-PEZ-dispenser.

He loves the things. How many PEZ dispensers have we flung into the trash?

I have ancient Roman and Greek coins laying around here. They are virtually worthless. Maybe $10 per? IMO, coins that are over 2,000 years old ought to be priceless but they aren't and thank God for that. My son was in a coin shop, thought of me and bought them for me because he knows his Pop-Pop is that loud guy that will collect about anything except taxes. So, now the coins ARE priceless.

As time marches on, our paper collectibles are are going to be further compromised. It's likely pages are going to become a part of this hobby. I will collect them because CGC and CBCS with all their insinuated propaganda has made it virtually impossible for collectors with limited budgets to own any higher grade keys or notable issues.

And I suppose once other collectors eventually realize that pages are a thing and CGC and CBCS horns into the things, they will drive pages with notable battle scenes or deaths of characters right through the roof as well. I mean, I still remember when there was a pretty well defined line between camps of "I WANT my books slabbed and graded" v "This is nuts! I'm not letting a grading company determine the value of my books!"

Originally Posted by Gaard
Quote:

Originally Posted by ticktocktyler
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaard
Right?

Hypothetical...
Let's say single pages had as much value as Abe's napkin. It didn't add any value to your collection. How many people who now say they love them, would suddenly not want them? If some peeps still wanted them for the 'coolness' of them, I actually applaud them. It's not my cup of tea, but I can't tell people what they should like.

But would you tell them if you could? LOL! For example, YOU don't determine the value of MY collection. I DO. And vice versa, right?

So, what exactly is "value"? Money? Coolness factor? Both? I took shit from some bozo on the CGC forum for buying one of those free flyers we used to get from our LCS. Paid like $20 for the 1st printed appearance of Red Hulk. Why did I do that? Well?

Because the coolness factor is worth something and the seller refused to give it away. I even messaged him and wrote "Yeah but there's some bozo on the CGC forum who is calling me a moron for attempting to buy something that is 'garbage' and was initially given away for free."

Seller didn't care. Not one tittle. He pointed out there were plenty of Superman giveaways like Superman-Tim in the 1940's and 1950's and no one is giving them away either. So, I bought the 1st printed appearance of Red Hulk. Someday, some effing genius will say "YAH! Dis is dah firss appearance of Red Hulk!" and collectors will go bonkers. 20 years ahead of you, dude.

In fact, if a Hulk movie is made in the near future and it has Red Hulk in it and it's a smash hit, both the book and eventually that flyer will go through the roof. The flyer not as much or quickly. But it will.

MY mistake was previously I had spoken out of my neck for others collecting stuff that I deemed "worthless". When I bought the Red Hulk flyer, I realized I was wrong and that and I shouldn't have said that. I buy stuff that gives me that shot of dopamine. Stuff I love for its uniqueness of niche factor. And what I call the "Look what EYE have!" factor. Bragging rights. Some of that are major pieces. Some are minor. Nothing feels better than sharing a cool piece of paper with a fellow collector.

I digress. My point is collect what makes you happy. BuffJake09 is making that point. Why should I give a rusty crap what other collectors think I should want or don't want in their collections? I would have a lot of nerve to dictate what they like or don't like back to them. It ISN'T JUST ABOUT THE MONEY VALUE.

One dude I know has a massive PEZ collection. At 1st, I was like "PEZ?" until I really LOOKED at his collection then I began wanting PEZ dispensers. He even had the first few PEZ releases complete with the whatever-goes-in-a-PEZ-dispenser.

He loves the things. How many PEZ dispensers have we flung into the trash?

I have ancient Roman and Greek coins laying around here. They are virtually worthless. Maybe $10 per? IMO, coins that are over 2,000 years old ought to be priceless but they aren't and thank God for that. My son was in a coin shop, thought of me and bought them for me because he knows his Pop-Pop is that loud guy that will collect about anything except taxes. So, now the coins ARE priceless.

As time marches on, our paper collectibles are are going to be further compromised. It's likely pages are going to become a part of this hobby. I will collect them because CGC and CBCS with all their insinuated propaganda has made it virtually impossible for collectors with limited budgets to own any higher grade keys or notable issues.

And I suppose once other collectors eventually realize that pages are a thing and CGC and CBCS horns into the things, they will drive pages with notable battle scenes or deaths of characters right through the roof as well. I mean, I still remember when there was a pretty well defined line between camps of "I WANT my books slabbed and graded" v "This is nuts! I'm not letting a grading company determine the value of my books!"

In my previous post, both times I said 'value', I was speaking monetarily.

How different would our hobby be if we lived in a time where there was no money?