Re: conduct after suspension or banning of forum member.13924
Collector | poka private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Logan510 @Logan510 - did you have anything to do with that? |
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PLOD | theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by xkonk That isn't always the case... |
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PLOD | theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Siggy I don't blame him, but I miss him. |
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Collector | Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia This comment reminded me of a guy I went to college with. He was one of those old hippie types, convinced the government was watching him. He read somewhere that if the FBI had a file on you, you could request it in writing and they legally had to send it to you. So, he sent it in, convinced he would get this 20-30 page dossier for being an enemy of the government. A few weeks passed, and he gets his package from the government. He opens up his file and the only thing in it was his request for his file. They might not have been watching him before... |
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Collector* | Towmater private msg quote post Address this user | |
I was advised via a public warning that I could only refer to forum members under their name on CBCS' Boards. Is that no longer true? (I don't want to do something that might get me a vacation. Thus, the question for clarity). |
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Moderator | Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user | |
@Towmater that policy has been loosened. It is preferred (for clarity) that people use the CBCS forum username as opposed to the CGC forum username, but it is no longer an issue. Several individuals are fine using their real names and that is not an issue either. If a person complains about someone using their CGC or real name, it will be addressed through private messages first. | ||
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. | xkonk private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus It's the case as far as the terms of use of the forum are concerned. Moderation is the discretion of the moderators, and their decisions are final. I'm not trying to make a philosophical statement about the fallibility of man, I'm just making a statement about the rules in practice. |
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PLOD | theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by xkonk The "rules" pretty much prohibit me from replying in good faith. |
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If I could, I would. I swear. | DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O I bet I know where that came from... |
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Moderator | Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson You probably do. I would not bet anything with anyone who was here at that time on that one. |
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Collector | poka private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson Well - the guy complained about it in public |
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If I could, I would. I swear. | DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by poka I never read their posts. |
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Collector | Buzzetta private msg quote post Address this user | |
@buzzetta Oh? Don't mind if I do... @Jesse_O I think it depends on the circumstances and what they did. I think everyone is familiar with Danny Dupcak and the trim jobs that he made over the years. So, make believe he did that here, and was banned by CBCS, would that mean that you would never want anyone referring to such events or the individual again? So, while admirable of a stance, 'don't talk about them if they are gone', I don't that it is a wise stance to take as a universal approach and would need to be considered within the context of the conversation. |
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Collector | Logan510 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by poka No, I had him on ignore anyway. |
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Masculinity takes a holiday. | EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Buzzetta @Buzzetta About a year ago we had a debate here about rules being a "means" rather than an "ends". Rules are intended to serve a purpose. Most reasonable people agree that rules are to be broken in legitimate service of a higher purpose. Those who feel that the rules themselves are the purpose are called Extremists. For example in Christian faith the rule of "Thou shall not lie" is constrained by it's purpose and subjugated the the rule of "Love your neighbor as you love yourself". I'm pretty sure that @Jesse_O and the other mods get that. |
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I'm good with splotches. | Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user | |
The 2nd trip down memory lane for me within this thread - Danny Dupcak. He owned a store in Hartsdale NY. I lived within 5 miles from his store and would frequent the store often in complete awe of the books he had on his wall. I was in my 20's and the concepts of resto and other purposeful shenanigans were not well known to me at the time since I was purely a reader of comics at that time. Then one day he crashed and burned in flames and I've heard instances of him popping up here and there on Ebay and other venues. But I remember those store visits and seeing Action Comics 1, Detective 27 on his wall and even though I'm sure all those books were compromised in some way, it did leave a lasting impression on me. |
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Collector | Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Buzzetta I think I more or less agree with you. While I agree we shouldn’t be just crapping on banned people on a regular basis, people who come in here and try to make the place toxic are going to build their reputation. It seems a little odd to give too much consideration to a poster whose goal is to make the forum a worse place. I mean, if you don’t want people talking about you, maybe don’t get yourself banned by acting like a tool. I know personal responsibility is not in style these days, but if you do the crime, you do the time and whatever consequences come with it. |
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Collector* | Towmater private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia Interesting but how do you feel about selective enforcement? When that happens, and it does happen, then you just end up with people who hold power over others using it unfairly. Sure common sense should rule the day but people are people. When "feelings" and "group think" get involved all sorts of shenanigans take place. Clarity makes it simple for everyone to understand why enforcement took place. Doing it one way one time and another way another time leads to confusion. I was given a warning 3 years ago for something and was following it. I found out in this thread that no longer applied or was loosened. I'm glad I asked about it, but still don't know to what extent it was loosened. So, I will just continue not calling people by anything other than their username on the board. I don't get jammed up doing something that I am unaware might be against a rule. While that may not work for others it keeps me running clean in my interactions here to do it that way. The guy who mentored me when I started out in law enforcement drummed it into me to not only know the elements of the laws I was enforcing but to know agency policy just as well. I passed that lesson on to every padawan who rode in my office when I was a FTO. Also, he shared that the totality of the situation should lead to the same outcome every time. I use that idea while raising children and it has served me well. |
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Moderator | Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Buzzetta In short, I agree with you. If you look at my first post, I referred to "piling on complaints" on a banned or suspended member. This does not mean that the person should never be mentioned again. Occasional discussion and comments are expected and typically not an issue. When one person after another keeps complaining or accusing, then it's an issue. If a person is banned or suspended, their consequence for their words or actions is the suspension or banishment. Discussing the incident that led up to the suspension or banishment is not, in and of itself, banned. It's the context of the discussion. My PERSONAL "mission statement" for the forum is for it to be a site that is a benefit to the whole comic book collecting community. Discussion of nefarious individuals is allowed and welcomed. But if you are going to complain or accuse someone that was a member here, share the evidence off the bat and make the thread your last resort, not the first one. If you can't show that you have tried to correct things with the individual, don't share it here. Going off of what @EbayMafia was saying, this is more of a "spirit of the law" rule than a "letter of the law" rule. In fact, it is not a written rule, but an unspoken rule or guideline. Right now, the consequence of not following this rule is a locked thread and maybe a private message to the offenders. If it gets to be a written rule, then the consequence would be suspension. I'd rather not go there. I hope this helps explain things a bit. It's early for me and the coffee has not kicked in yet. |
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Collector | poka private msg quote post Address this user | |
i can’t believe we are even discussing this | ||
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Collector | Redmisty4me private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by poka Meaning what? |
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I'm good with splotches. | Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user | |
I think he means this should have been "done/fini/caput/sayonara a loooooooooooooong time ago. I know I sure do. |
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Collector* | Towmater private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 I kind of agree with you. It isn't like the discussion is going to sway things. The direction isn't changing. The course is and has been set. |
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Moderator | Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user | |
Agreed. If anyone has any more questions, pm me. | ||
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