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Collector moodswing private msg quote post Address this user
This is actually a cbcs grading question. This was graded as a 9.8 but there is something going on at the bottom right corner. Is that a stain?


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Collector chester15 private msg quote post Address this user
Sure looks like a stain of some type. There's another above the top right corner of the yellow "Welcome" sign.
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Collector Rafel private msg quote post Address this user
What do the GRADERS NOTES say?
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Collector flanders private msg quote post Address this user
There is also a stain on the top right. Grader's notes are only listed on 9.6 and below.

Here's another for comparison:


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Collector BrashSmurf private msg quote post Address this user
well grading is based on opinion and if they say its a 9.8 then its a 9.8

There are guidelines but its all really subjective
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Collector GanaSoth private msg quote post Address this user
@moodswing is that actually yours? Or a pic off-line? Reason in asking, it could be a buggie (magical nose goblin) on the slab, from the owner that took the pic.
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Collector moodswing private msg quote post Address this user
@GanaSoth
Ebay listing. I will pm the seller and see what is up with the stains.
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COLLECTOR Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user
Could it be some sort of ink rub from the printing process?
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COLLECTOR drchaos private msg quote post Address this user
Buy the book, not the grade on the label.

I would just find a different book to buy.
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Collector moodswing private msg quote post Address this user
@Studley_Dudley
Could be a printing defect. Sent seller a message. I will report back if I get a response. This is the first cbcs graded comic that I have come across with a fishy grade.
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Collector HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by moodswing
@Studley_Dudley
Could be a printing defect. Sent seller a message. I will report back if I get a response. This is the first cbcs graded comic that I have come across with a fishy grade.


“NEARMINT+ / MINT9.8

This is close to mint with few minor defects
Interior pages are almost always off-white/white or better”

If CBCS determined those marks as a print error/defect; that would explain the 9.8.
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Collector xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
Since it's an eBay picture, could also just be something weird with the seller's camera/scanner.
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Collector Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
These findings, which are not uncommon, drive me up a wall.
I am so tired of hearing the "well it's subjective" or "buy the book; not the grade" excuses. I'd actually rather hear errors happen. I can live with errors because they're made everywhere and in every business.

That said, there is a responsibility level with any company; any company - to provide the expected services that we pay them for. And pay good money for.

We shouldn't have to make an excuse that it's subjective so often; and we shouldn't have to make an excuse of buy the book not the grade. That's exactly what I'm putting my $$$ out for - so that I don't have to make my own assessment. Grading expert are doing that.
If there's a X% fallout due to mistakes - fine. Get to root cause and put in an improvement plan. But no more excuses that we just push aside as "well ............".

I've gotten the "light bends" nonsense that you can't even see without a Hubbel telescope; and this booger in the corner is "ok because it's a manufacturing defect". Oy vay. No - I don't think so.
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Collector moodswing private msg quote post Address this user
Seller can't check the comic due to being at the store. Says it looks like the stain is on the comic but doesn't know how cbcs would miss that.
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Collector sportshort private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by GanaSoth
@moodswing is that actually yours? Or a pic off-line? Reason in asking, it could be a buggie (magical nose goblin) on the slab, from the owner that took the pic.


Now i'm mad! why didn't anyone tell me they were "magical"!
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Collector maynard23692 private msg quote post Address this user
mold after sealing? Is that common?
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Collector Steverogers11 private msg quote post Address this user
Pass on that book bro
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Collector moodswing private msg quote post Address this user
@Steverogers11

Yeah, I will pass on it unless it is a smudge on the slab.
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Collector flanders private msg quote post Address this user
It's not a smudge on the slab, Buy a different one.
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Collector BrashSmurf private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111
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We are paying them for their opinion on what they believe the book should be graded. Opinions are subjective
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Collector flanders private msg quote post Address this user
And in this case their opinion is wrong. I'll still be sending my 3rd submission to CBCS once they get back up and running regardless. Mistakes were made.
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Collector mattness private msg quote post Address this user
The label has “smudges” also. Could be scanner?
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Collector GAC private msg quote post Address this user
@mattness nice catch!
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Collector moodswing private msg quote post Address this user
Unfortunately the mystery will not be solved for a while. I am hoping it is on the slab. I would like to think something like that would not have been missed.
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Collector GanaSoth private msg quote post Address this user
@moodswing I'm sure it's either on the scanner or slab.
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Collector Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by BrashSmurf
We are paying them for their opinion on what they believe the book should be graded. Opinions are subjective


I understand this. Truly I do. And I understand there will be differences in opinion. We need to all allow for the 6.5 that we thought should be a 7.5.

That said, if this is a smudge on the comic itself, the subjectivity of this is a 9.8 goes out the window and I call b.s. That's just flat out nonsense. I don't know what seasoned comic professional would think that could ever be a 9.8. Again - if they made a mistake, no biggie. Put in corrective actions. Problem solved. But if we all are going to sit here and say we pay them to grade THAT particular book at 9.8 and their opinion stands because we pay them for their opinion, then this whole grading thing is one big giant scheme we have all fallen for hook, line and sinker. That is not a 9.8 if that smudge is on the book. No way, no how. Don't care if the printer did it or little joey eating his chocolate ice cream did it.
I'd like to see one person stand up in here and say... yep... I'd buy that at a 9.8 price. Aint happening. And it aint happening because we all know deep down in our gut it's not that.
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