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Dispute Process on Grade for Book795

Collector Dave1984 private msg quote post Address this user
Just got a shipment of books back. I am very puzzled by the grading of 1 book. Is there some type of Dispute process I am just very puzzled how this book could come back as anything less than a 9.4 and it came back as a 9.0.

Thanks

Dave
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Collector Hero_Restoration private msg quote post Address this user
I don't know about a dispute process, but what do the graders notes say?
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Collector Kinzebac private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Dave1984
Just got a shipment of books back. I am very puzzled by the grading of 1 book. Is there some type of Dispute process I am just very puzzled how this book could come back as anything less than a 9.4 and it came back as a 9.0.

Thanks

Dave


Dave,
I have disputed a grade before. You need to email customer service. Make sure that you have your reasoning why you think it should be a higher grade as well as pictures supporting your position. Good luck.
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
Did you check the grader notes? Maybe they saw something you misssed?
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
Just snap on the QR code on the back of the label and it will show the grader notes.
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Collector SilverAgeFan private msg quote post Address this user
How do you do that Darth?
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
Download a QR reader on your smartphone. Or you can also just type the books serial number into the website, I'll see if I can find the link.
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
Ok, on the home page click on Services, then click on Grading Notes. Then type your serial number into the search box. If it's an older pre-migration slab it might not work until the migration is done, newer books should work fine.
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Collector Dave1984 private msg quote post Address this user
Thanks all for the advice, I found the grader notes- here is the note that I think downgrades the book-

several tiny spine stress break color
tiny indent left side back cover does not break color
light creases top back cover does not break color
light creases top back cover does not break color

I have looked through my grading guide and 9.0 is the first grade that allows any type of indent as a flaw. However I am just not seeing it on the back of this book.

Very puzzling
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Collector Dave1984 private msg quote post Address this user
oh the Notes are also listed in any orders you made, click the hyper link
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
Those guys do catch the tiniest details.
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
Also, certain issues will now be more difficult to see now that it's in the slab
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Collector Hero_Restoration private msg quote post Address this user
It sounds like if you had us press it, it would have graded closer to what you thought, depending on how many CB's are on the spine.
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
How bad are the color breaking spine stress marks? I'd say those are the biggest deal because they break color.
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Collector Dave1984 private msg quote post Address this user
i'll snap a picture of the spine
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Collector Hero_Restoration private msg quote post Address this user
It says in the notes the breaks are tiny, doubt I will see them in pictures. It is unlikely tiny breaks on the spine will knock it down to 9.0, it usually takes another significant defect.
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Collector Dave1984 private msg quote post Address this user
Here are some pics of the spine- looks pretty darn good to me




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Collector RRO private msg quote post Address this user
Part of the reason is multiple notations on graders notes, plus (several) color breaks. That will do it! The spine color breaks are clear on the scans too.
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Collector MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Dave1984
Thanks all for the advice, I found the grader notes- here is the note that I think downgrades the book-

several tiny spine stress break color
tiny indent left side back cover does not break color
light creases top back cover does not break color
light creases top back cover does not break color

I have looked through my grading guide and 9.0 is the first grade that allows any type of indent as a flaw. However I am just not seeing it on the back of this book.

Very puzzling


CBCS may not necessarily use the same grading standards as the guide you mention.
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Collector Dave1984 private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by RRO
Part of the reason is multiple notations on graders notes, plus (several) color breaks. That will do it! The spine color breaks are clear on the scans too.


Not sure I agree with the multiple notations, I got a 9.6 on my NM 98 and it had multiple notations as well
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Collector MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user
From the photographs I believe I can see up to 7 CB tics (some look light, but I think I can see them).
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
I don't have access to my overstreet guide at the moment, but in the middle of it is a line chart graph that shows the range of minimum and maximum number of flaws allowed for each grade level.
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Collector MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user
CBCS doesn't use Overstreet. If someone is going to swear by Overstreet, why use CBCS (or anyone else???)
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Collector Dave1984 private msg quote post Address this user
Thanks for everyone's comments I appreciate it. Does CBCS publish their standards? It's hard to compare if they don't list these
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Collector MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user
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From the photographs I believe I can see up to 7 CB tics (some look light, but I think I can see them).


And when I increase the image size, I think I see even more.
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Collector MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Dave1984
Thanks for everyone's comments I appreciate it. Does CBCS publish their standards?


They do not.

EDIT: They do. :tonofbricks:
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Collector Hero_Restoration private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Dave1984
Thanks for everyone's comments I appreciate it. Does CBCS publish their standards? It's hard to compare if they don't list these


Yes, they do. https://cbcscomics.com/grades

I still say you got the right grade, it think it just needs a press to get a 9.4.
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Collector BLBcomics private msg quote post Address this user
I see 4 color breaks at spine without any real effort placed. One would think a 9.4 would not have this many. I would call it a 9.2
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
Right CBCS does not go by Overstreet, I was just presenting an example of how a certain number of overall flaws can move a book down in grade.
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Collector MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Dave1984
Thanks for everyone's comments I appreciate it. Does CBCS publish their standards? It's hard to compare if they don't list these


Yes, they do. https://cbcscomics.com/grades

I still say you got the right grade, it think it just needs a press to get a 9.4.


Well, I'll be! (if I slabbed books, I'da known this :whistle: )

Sorry CBCS, my bad, your good.
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