Stan Lee charging $100 per sign on final con704
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| I wouldn't pay more for anyone's sig. I respect what Stan has done but I also think he has been a bit of a jerk and tried his damndest to make sure the spotlight shines on him and away from the many other creators that contributed to Marvel becoming the company it is. Take away Stan from Kirby or Ditko and you have an inferior product all around. If you don't believe me read Stan's book where Jack or Steve did not work with him. Stan needed someone to bring his stories to the page and the input of Jack and others to make it work. I am not a fan of anyone who tries to take away from what ultimately is often a collaboration. There are not very many books out there that had only one person do it all. Now I also fall in the camp with not understanding at all why someone would get a signature of a creator who didn't work on that issue at all. No one wants to know my opinion on grading a book with a sig because it just makes them mad  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton Do you count actors who played the character in a movie signing the book? I have even seen Lance Henrickson sign an Aliens comic that wasn't even a movie tie-in and Bishop wasn't even in the story. |
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| @Oxbladder, what I said, and this is my opinion only, is if someone signed a book and was NOT creatively involved with tha particular issue, then I believe, that book could (should?) receive a lower grade. Otherwise based on current grading standards, ANYONE could sign and the score would not be lowered. Okay guys I'm ready for castration..... | ||
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| @Oxbladder, in other words, I agree, | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by SilverAgeFan Yeah, I guess this make some sense. So what is the difference between Hugh Jackman signing a Wolverine book and a cosplayer who looks like Wolverine signing the book? Neither were involved in making the book. |
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| If be okay with an actor signing if he/she played that character. But it's tricky. Robert Downey Jr. Did an amazing job as Iron man. But that's in the last 10 years. For all you Iron Man fans, IF thi had a 9.6-9.8 Iron Man #1, would you have Downey sign it? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by SilverAgeFan I remember at last years Wondercon, a guy brought a stack of old "Planet of the Apes" comics and had Gary Oldman signing them and being witnessed by CGC. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by SilverAgeFan Hmmm. Are you talking about high grade books only? Because a sig on the cover, no matter whose it is, doesn't really affect a VG or lower book. |
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| I guess my problem with paying for any creator's sig is that I have already paid a bundle of my hard earned cash for that creator's books, travelled to the convention, etc. which all helps to pay the creator so why should I pay any more? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Oxbladder Totally agree. I have autographs from over 100 creators and I've never paid one penny for any of them. |
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| @SilverAgeFan I believe grade should solely be based on the physical condition of the book. If a sig is verified then it's not considered damage, unverified it's writing on the book and damage. Now if the sig has nothing to do with the book I believe it should devalue in the marketplace, but that's up to consumers to decide. I think CBCS downgrading physical grade for a verified sig would be like jumping into a bottomless pit, there would be no end in sight and it would cause more problems than the one it tries to solve. Steve Rickets explained it pretty well. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego Agreed. Verified adds value, otherwise is graffiti or scribble |
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| @DarthLego I completely agree. There's a disconnect between a grade of a book and a value of a book. If I drew and submitted my own comic and it graded a 10, would it be worth anything? Not likely because my drawing sucks. The value of a book is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Now, some people are saying, if they signed the book, it's no different than someone that had nothing to do with the book sign it. You are absolutely correct, but you are missing a KEY piece of the puzzle. Your signature is not worth anything if it is not sought after. Once you become famous and people clamor for your signature, then the items you sign will likely be valuable. Take it one step further. Let's remove the value equation. Let's say Norman Reedus signed a walking dead t-shirt. The shirt's face value is only going to be $10, but put it on ebay and the shirt may sell for $50. Can anyone say for sure it was his autograph? Probably only the actor could verify that. However, some people are willing to take the chance that it's real and bid according to their reasonable assumption. |
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| Lots of good points here. I feel there should be some artistic connection to the book being autographed. Artistic could apply to a movie star who portrayed the character like Ryan Reynolds signing a Deadpool book as an example. It does bug me to see books signed that Stan Lee had NOTHING to do with. Even though he was the co creator of Spiderman, I would not pursue a signed book like ASM 300. I would take a book like Savage She Hulk #1 which he wrote over the ASM 300 any day. | ||
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| This problem would go a long way to fixing itself if the creator community would just police itself. If Stan Lee refused to sign Darth Vader, Batman, and Mickey Mouse I am sure the majority would back him up on that. But I don't see that happening, he seems content to continue signing drek in exchange for $100 bills. Hopefully other creators have more self control. | ||
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| Why blame Stan though? Look at it from his point of view. He has fans and some fans think that it's funny to have him sign batman or stuff that is not normally associated with him. If he refuses, they think he's a jerk and they tell their friends and those friends post on message forums about how Stan spit on their friend while shoving him down the stairs. Yeah, he could refuse, but it wouldn't help his nice guy image that he wants to project. | ||
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| as long as he gets the money he probably does not care what his signing. marvel dc image or a blank piece of paper. I know I wouldn't care what I wad asked to sign in his position | ||
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| Like it was previously mentioned, it seems to come down to a matter of preference and there really doesn't seem to be a right or wrong answer. @DarthLego, had a good point, if the artists, writers and creators policed themselves, the issue would be less. Have a sign up at shows and conventions statins they'll sign only thief work. That being said, those folks are smart and intelligent. When someone asks them to sign something they had nothing to do with, Indy it's with amusement that they do so. But, who's gonna turn down $100 for 10 seconds of work? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Revelations that will never happen. his manager wants $$$$ and he is going to get as many of those $100s as he can. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by JustThatGuy Max rules.  |
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| As long as people are willing to shell out the money, Stan's willing to help them with that......or any artist/writer on whatever book we put in front of them! | ||
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| I'm old school. I would never in a million years have anyone sign a copy of a book like Amazing Fantasy 15. Stan Lee or Steve Ditko would be the ONLY people on Earth I would even consider doing that. To me, when you have a mega key book like that, you don't mess with it. |
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Who would have anyone other than Stan sign an AF15?  |
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