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Forum Crier OGJackster private msg quote post Address this user
Today Kevin Smith stated that he thinks Alpha Flight should be the next boundary-pushing team to have a movie made about them.

For speculators, keep an eye out on X-Men #120, first appearance and #121 first full appearance.

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What...? Alpha Flight, you say....?
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Collector KingNampa private msg quote post Address this user
Nice 9.8, cheap price of $3k.

Ebay
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Forum Crier OGJackster private msg quote post Address this user


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Around the 3:30 mark.
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Collector DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user
Comicons are for nerds.

I'll be in line for Snyder & Capullo tomorrow morning in Phx.
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Collector Marximus private msg quote post Address this user
Man, they got it all wrong.

It's all about Wonder Man.

Remember, you saw it here 1st.
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Collector GanaSoth private msg quote post Address this user
@Marximus Yeah, Wonder Man and Sentry are next.
@OGJackster He only brought up Alpha Flight cause he is in B.C.
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Captain Corrector CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user
@OGJackster
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Today Kevin Smith stated that he thinks Alpha Flight should be the next boundary-pushing team to have a movie made about them.

For speculators, keep an eye out on X-Men #120, first appearance and #121 first full appearance.


Another instance of First Cameo (X-Men #120) currently worth more than First Full Appearance (X-Men #121)
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Collector Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
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Another instance of First Cameo (X-Men #120) currently worth more than First Full Appearance (X-Men #121)


What's another example? I can't think of any.
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Collector GanaSoth private msg quote post Address this user
@Drogio I cant think of any either. Normally first full appearances cost more.
Examples:
Cable (New Mutants 87) Cameo in 86
Wolverine (Incredible Hulk 181) Cameo 180
Venom (Amazing Spider-Man 300) Cameo 299
Carnage (Amazing Spider-Man 361) Cameo 360
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Another instance of First Cameo (X-Men #120) currently worth more than First Full Appearance (X-Men #121)


What's another example? I can't think of any.


How about Darkseid? His first full appearance is in Forever People #1, but he had cameo appearances in Superman’s Pal Jimmy Olsen #134 and #135. The first cameo appearance is worth more than the full appearance, even with that appearance coming in a first issue.
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Captain Corrector CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user
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Another instance of First Cameo (X-Men #120) currently worth more than First Full Appearance (X-Men #121)


What's another example? I can't think of any.

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@Drogio I cant think of any either. Normally first full appearances cost more.
Examples:
Cable (New Mutants 87) Cameo in 86
Wolverine (Incredible Hulk 181) Cameo 180
Venom (Amazing Spider-Man 300) Cameo 299
Carnage (Amazing Spider-Man 361) Cameo 360

I was thinking Superman’s Pal Jimmy Olsen #134 and Forever People #1, as @esaravo mentioned.

Another X-Men example is Uncanny X-Men #282 (First Bishop Cameo) and Uncanny X-Men #283 (First Full Appearance of Bishop).
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Captain Corrector CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user
Another example is Eternal Warrior #4
(First Cameo Appearance of Bloodshot) and Rai #0 (First Full Appearance of Bloodshot)
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Alpha Flight would never happen. I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Another X-Men example is Uncanny X-Men #282 (First Bishop Cameo) and Uncanny X-Men #283 (First Full Appearance of Bishop).


Multiple reasons for Uncanny #282 being worth what it is... First Blue Team or Gold Team (whichever it was in the issue), first Whilce Portacio in X-Men, different creative team in general (including Byrne plotting), and Bishop cameo. Pretty stacked issue. Bishop first appearance in #283 doesn't quite match that.
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Collector Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
sometimes when a character makes several appearances as cameos, the first full appearance becomes not as significant. I think this is the case with Jason Todd (Batman 357). One frame, didn't even call him by first name. The scene was barely even part of the story. As cameo as it gets. Next few appearances I believe we're also cameos in 'Tec and Batman. Not even sure what his first technically "full" appearance is.

But Batman 357 is considered the "key" first Jason Todd.
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Beaten by boat oars Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user
UXM 281 was the split into Blue/Gold teams after the original lineup came back into the fold. 282 names Bishop in the cover in majestic, generic pose. That's the only reason I can think of it being more valued. 283 may be the first full appearance, but my lowly opinion is that the cover for 282 is the selling point.
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Collector Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
Don't forget Dark Nights metal #2 (BWL cameo, first appearance by timeline/storyline) and TT12 (first full appearance).
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I'd really like someone to explain to me why they would consider 120 a "cameo" appearance. The first two pages of the book names the team and shows every member of the team!!! These aren't flashbacks, them appearing in the background or remaining unnamed instances. CGC calls it the first appearance. CBCS calls it the first appearance. I haven't checked Overstreet. Comic Vine says it is the first appearance. It seems to be generally accepted as the first appearance. How do you classify it as a cameo??





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Collector thelastbard private msg quote post Address this user
@Drogio Good one.
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Forum Crier OGJackster private msg quote post Address this user
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I haven't checked Overstreet.


Here it is...


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Wow! Does this mean I'm a millionaire now?








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Moderator Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user
@OGJackster Thanks!!! So, Overstreet says #120 is the first appearance also. That seems to nail it down for me.
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Collector doog private msg quote post Address this user
I’ll get 120 graded too then. Being a Canadian movie, there will have to be beer, snow and hockey prominently featured. Or maybe a curling angle!
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Captain Corrector CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user
@Drogio
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Another instance of First Cameo (X-Men #120) currently worth more than First Full Appearance (X-Men #121)


What's another example? I can't think of any.

Shouldn’t have doubted yourself, you did just fine lol
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I'd really like someone to explain to me why they would consider 120 a "cameo" appearance. The first two pages of the book names the team and shows every member of the team!!! These aren't flashbacks, them appearing in the background or remaining unnamed instances. CGC calls it the first appearance. CBCS calls it the first appearance. I haven't checked Overstreet. Comic Vine says it is the first appearance. It seems to be generally accepted as the first appearance. How do you classify it as a cameo??

Huh, CGC calls it first appearance? No, they don’t.

According to CGC, X-Men #120 is the “1st Appearance of Alpha Flight in Cameo”.



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@Jesse_O
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I'd really like someone to explain to me why they would consider 120 a "cameo" appearance. The first two pages of the book names the team and shows every member of the team!!! These aren't flashbacks, them appearing in the background or remaining unnamed instances. CGC calls it the first appearance. CBCS calls it the first appearance. I haven't checked Overstreet. Comic Vine says it is the first appearance. It seems to be generally accepted as the first appearance. How do you classify it as a cameo??

Huh, CGC calls it first appearance? No, they don’t.

According to CGC, X-Men #120 is the “1st Appearance of Alpha Flight in Cameo”.





If you look at my #120 CBCS in post #22 above, it says :

1st appearance of Alpha Flight.
Sunfire and Mariko Yashido appearance.
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Captain Corrector CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user
@Redshade

Those are not CGC.
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@Redshade

Those are not CGC.


I know. The CBCS logo is clear in the photo.
I have amended my text.
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Moderator Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user
Now I see where the confusion is. CGC messed it up!!! And I obviously misread the label.
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