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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O Not true, and there are plenty of resources available to CBCS, if they chose to pursue it. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O There is no Direct version of X-Men #121. As well, Marvel started identifying Direct editions with the FAT DIAMONDS of Feb, 1977...not the slashed barcodes. THIS:  ...is a DIRECT MARKET copy. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, Direct cover markings went company-wide with the JUNE, 1979 cover dates. By the way, here are all the Direct market editions for Marvels PRIOR TO June of 1979: http://www.bipcomics.com/showcase/Direct/index.php In fact, that page plagiarized my words from a message board post, probably on the Valiantfans or CGC board. Not impossible at all. Not even very difficult. CBCS initially refused to differentiate "newsstand editions" from Direct editions AT ALL...until they didn't. Here is the corresponding DC Whitmans: http://web.archive.org/web/20131210085545/http://stlcomics.com/checklists/whitman (may not work.) |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Joosh That's a great question. |
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| @DocBrown Thank you for clarifying the issue. I enjoyed looking at the BIP site. I had not seen that site before. However, it does appear to be outdated. The copyright goes to 2013. Also, the article that you quoted about the list of 1977 - 1979 direct edition comics has a disclaimer paragraph. Quote: Originally Posted by BIP article Only the comics that he had examples of are highlighted. So it's quite possible that issues need to added to that list. Having said that, it is a GREAT reference tool for those interested in newsstand editions. And with that, it's time for me to call it a night. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O This is where deferring to those with extensive experience in specific areas like this would be helpful to those not as familiar with these things. That list is functionally complete, and has been complete since about 2005-2006. There is a small, but very, very dedicated group of collectors who have been tracking and cataloging these books for two decades or more. Is it possible that "missing issues" could be found? Of course. Anything is possible. Is it "quite possible", or even likely...? No. Marvels were, and remain, the most widely collected comics of those eras. Once the initial research was completed, the list was filled out, and is functionally full. And how do I know that...? Because no new issues have been found since then. For example: no one has ever found a "fat diamond" copy of Amazing Spiderman #182. And yet, almost all the other fat and skinny diamond Direct issues are for sale on a regular basis, including right now. Does that mean an ASM #182 fat diamond COULDN'T exist? No. But, when all the rest of the issues are found with regularity, but no one's seen or produced a copy of ASM #182....which would have no special reason to be so rare...then the likelihood is that it simply doesn't exist. And if one was found, I would say "that's incredible! What were the INCREDIBLY unique factors that led to such a book remaining undetected for 40 years??" If I had any questions about these sorts of minutiae, I would contact Metarog, shield-agent, or flying donut...and they have contacted me about similar issues...because these guys have spent those 2 decades+ studying these fields. Metarog, for example, was the very first person to not only recognize that Marvel had printed 30 and 35 cent variants in 1976 and 1977 for every single Marvel issue published, but also known to have ASSEMBLED complete sets of both. The guy knows more than just about anyone with regards to Bronze age variants. It would be a mistake to constantly have to reinvent the wheel, when there are already pioneers and trailblazers who have already done the heavy lifting for you. It need only be asked. |
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| Yeah. Metarog is very knowledgeable about a lot of comics stuff. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown Good info, cheers for this post.   |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown I’ve been asking that since the initial announcement. No official reason, but from Borock so far: “I had little to do with this decision besides giving my “OK”. Maybe Steve Ricketts can help us out. If it’s something simple, I am sure we would talk about changing, if not, then I am not sure. I am a vintage specialist not a modern one.” |
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| They really need to notate newsstands from 2000-2017. They are more rare than the entire discussion we been talking about in this very thread. Makes no sense. Just... laziness or too busy moving/absorption | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Agreed. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke +1! I hope they do too |
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| And, if anyone official at CBCS is reading this: this is an easy fix. If you have questions, seek out the experts in these fields. They exist. And most of them would be thrilled to give you the information FOR FREE. Remember those things that you needed to distinguish you from CGC...? Designating newsstands is a HUGE step, because Moderns comprise the bulk of submissions, as you well know. So, you instituted it...GREAT!...but you only did it halfway, and with mistakes and errors. Set aside the naysayers who say it's not possible or too hard. It's not only possible, it's fairly straightforward, and whatever information hasn't already been gathered can be, by those who know these things. SET YOURSELF APART FROM CGC. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown Agreed. |
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| I wonder what single issues from these boxed collections would be considered...Newsstand or Direct?  OO mm |
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A neat find would be a complete box set. Then you could look and see.  |
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 SpongeBob Comics #1 sells for $991!
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke I second that motion! I've got an ever growing collection of Marvel Newsstand books up to Dec 2013, targeting 2011-13. There are some oddball books that came in 3 packs that are still newsstands. That's just Marvel. There's DC Rebirth titles up to 10/17. The Walmart variants of those are another thing...I've done some research on my own that I would be happy to share with CBCS. I'm pretty sure there are at least a couple guys here who know more about late modern newsstands than I do. I have been holding off submitting some late modern newsstands because I'm not OK with the labels missing pertinent information that would help justify my ridiculous obsession. So I just had another thought. Would CBCS note a price variant post-2000, as seen on a significant portion of late modern newsstand books? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Joosh Now that is an excellent question. While they wont label it as newsstand, surely they would note the price difference. They notice it on canadian pricing... If nobody has an answer, I do have a few post-2000 that are worth sending in for testing |
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