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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 2. I’ve personally sold several signed BKV books for quite a bit more than equal grade blue labels of the same book. All were recorded by GPA so I’m sure it’s not difficult to find that his signature does add value. Like most other creators signatures though, it just has to be in the right book. 3. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here. Can you clarify? 4. Please let me know the “bunch” of conventions Brian has done lately, say in 2016 and 2017? I attend quite a few shows and have not seen him since the launch of Paper Girls in 2015 in NYC so I’d love to know what conventions I missed him at. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown I am so entrenched in my position, even if you prove it and me wrong, I will not give it up because my belief in my position trumps your rationality and facts, thus making me a "useful idiot" to those who share my position. |
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| If you look up other Midtown Comics COAs- They don't look like that. Could be an old COA but I doubt it. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Foghorn_Sam Basically summarizes our current culture as a country. Don’t think we will be going back to the “good old times” when people actually debated and respected each other’s opinions. Get used to the new norm  |
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| Today's Challenge..IF you choose to accept.. Lets make some MIDTOWN COAS  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Gabriel85301 @Gabriel85301 Simple, google 'Midtown Comics autograph certificate' there are tones of useable images e.g.:  |
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Not mine, but I found this with the same "odd" looking Midtown COA.  |
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 Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it!
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Quote:Originally Posted by KingNampa It's more accurate to say we return to politics of old. The modern era of politics starts with Roosevelt's presidency. For a long time following - while partisan politics was still around - there was a lot more respect shown than before. Take the Senate for instance. Filibusters were rare. So rare there was never any discussion of eliminating the 60 vote rule to end one. Filibusters in the past couple of decade became so common that the Senate was literally not able to get anything done. So has adopted rules exempting some work from the filibuster. It's a pity, because Thomas Jefferson wrote the Senate rules specifically so that minority opinions still mattered and had to be given some consideration. But the intent was consideration and compromise - not paralysis. But if you look before Roosevelt, things were this bad and even worse. Fist fights were not unheard of in Congress, politicians running for office insulted each others wives, children, parentage and sexuality. Hamilton died in a duel with Vice President Burr (which lead to DC outlawing dueling) and Lincoln when in Congress was challenged to -and accepted a duel. Their seconds worked it out. And last we did have the Civil War. So it was worse in the more distant past. I can only hope we can find our way back civility in public politics and debate. |
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| @IronMan Teddy or FDR? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by drchaos FDR was an actual Socialist! |
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| @VillageIdiot so are the fire department, police dept, hospitals, roads, ect.. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by VictorCreed Uhhhhh, no they are not. Are you lacking in terminology? |
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| Oh wait, you're from Canada. Now I understand! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by IronMan @IronMan Unfortunately, I doubt that we can. At least anytime soon. I believe that the two-party system, and the primary system to choose candidates, has led to more and more extreme candidates at both ends of the political spectrum. Fewer and fewer moderate voices are being elected, leading to less civility and certainly less compromise. Also, both parties have the mentality that when the opposing party has success passing legislation, it enhances that party and diminishes their own. Thus, we get more and more party line votes, threats of filibuster, etc. You don't want to vote for legislation proposed by the opposing party, even if it makes sense. If it succeeds, my opposition will get more popular. This has been compared to the era in Roman history leading up to the end of the Republic, when Rome needed land reform. (Not my original idea by any means.) And don't get me started on the lobbyists, who I think have a vested interest in keeping things at the status quo, so they can keep on lobbying for ever. I know. I'm very cynical. Sorry for the rant. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by VillageIdiot Technically public roads are a type of socialism. Everyone pays, only some use. Private roads existed before public. Better examples of socialism in the USA would include Social Security, public libraries, public schools. Social Security doesn't "save" your money for you. It uses the money you pay to give benefits to those retired. That's a wealth transfer from one group to another by the government. Text book socialism. Same way with public parks, libraries and schools. Everyone is paying for something only a relatively small number of people use. Private schools, parks and libraries exist - paid for by those using them or by an endowment from some private third party. I was speaking of course of FDR. BTW, a good number of our Founding Fathers held socialist views. Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine were socialists by the standards of today. Most of the rest were socialists by the standard of their day. They recognized a "social contract" in government. A lot of people seem to confuse socialism with communism. They are little alike. Private ownership of property and the accumulation of individual wealth is encouraged under socialism just like with capitalism. Germany doesn't own Mercedes Benz, nor Italy Fiat (Fiat does own Chrysler lol) Virtually all of Western Europe counts as socialistic. Last I looked rich Americans love to vacation there. They have a lot of nice places to visit. Aren't we supposed to be discussing comic books?  |
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| Well, as a matter of governance, socialism is a system that doesn’t recognize private property, be it physical or intellectual. It can’t. In order to equitably redistribute resources to the people, you first have to take it from them. You have no right to what you produce or what you earn. All of your money, your work, even your family, technically belongs to the state because only the state – enter the ruling class i.e politicians – can equitably distribute it. They know what’s fair, and if you disagree or fail to toe the line you will be shouted down because you’re just greedy and bigoted, and have privilege, oh and on top of that, you hate poor people. You're also a fascist, even though that’s kind of the same thing as socialism. Doesn’t matter, fascist pig! Police and fire departments (for the most part) are a local system, which is highly consistent with liberty and federalism. It works best when locals are making their own decisions for their own unique conditions – ie, self-governance as opposed to central planners. Another way to rationalize it is; as a citizen in America, you are one of about 320 million people. One vote in over three hundred million. In terms of representation, your vote is very, very insignificant. So why on earth would you want to relinquish important decisions – the very ones that directly affect your life? – to an inherently centralized government that you have such little say in? Do you want a team of faceless bureaucrats 25 states over deciding what kind of fire engines your town needs? Or what kind of healthcare you should have? The type of Policing and tactics used in such? What kind of car you should drive? How your kid’s school is going to be run? Hell no! You want those decisions to be made by you. If they must be made by government, you want them discussed 1 mile from your house at a table made up of your friends and neighbors, and fellow citizens, so just in case "they" do something stupid, you have direct access to them, and the idiocy enabled by those in charge! Oh, and yes Iron Man Comic Books are always the primary subject! |
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| I'm out, you guys are way off topic. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by OGJackster I think this shows that the COA is probably legit. I couldn't find any like this so I assumed it was fake. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by VillageIdiot Most are sloppy signatures. Have them sign something other than a comic and frame it if you like the creator. |
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Essentially destroying the purity of the cover and overall condition of said book! 
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Quote:Originally Posted by X51 15 years ago I felt about signatures as both of you did. If I got signatures at a show I always had them sign on the first page. But largely because of the signature series for professionally graded books. I have changed my mind. I like the authentication/verification, which one could never really prove before. It was just an honor system. I like the way books look in slabs and the yellow labels. And if I'm going to slab a book with a signature, I want to see the signature. A lot of artists have nice looking signatures. Steranko and Grell's signature are practically works of art by themselves. Signed, slabbed books are not the focus of my collecting. But I enjoy owning a dozen or so. And hey - choices are good. I'm glad signature series exists in the graded comic world |
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| @VillageIdiot We are not in agreement for the most part - though I do agree with your explanation on those government institutions/agencies that insure internal and external security. Those are the reasons nation states exist in the first place. Necessity, not philosophy. Every from of government includes such. Your expressed views  suggest I'm speaking with a Libertarian. I enjoy discussions with Libertarians. As a whole they are an intelligent lot that knows what they believe and why. Given my degree is in Poly Sci, I could do this forever . But since it's a comic book forum I'll say I respect your beliefs and leave it at that. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by OGJackster Are you new to comic book forums? Off topic is like gold here . Any interesting discussion always has some serious off topic to it. Some of the very best discussions started out as something else |
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| Those COAs sure look easy to create. I don't see how having one of those certificates prove it's a legitimate signature when the certificate themselves may not be authentic. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by 50AE_DE Which is why the Authentic Signature program exists with all grading companies and the Verified program exists with two. COA's do make raw signed comic books easier to sell. To many consumers they offer some assurance as opposed to none. But they are just pieces of paper that anyone could make on a computer and print with an inkjet printer. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Gabriel85301 Who couldn't? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by IronMan No, I'm not new. Normally it doesn't bother me... except when I'm really interested in the actual topic and it goes way south. Then it's bothersome. If people want to go off on their own weird topic for a lengthy amount of time, start another thread. Otherwise, I think it's kind of rude to the person that started this thread looking for answers and more information on a particular issue. Just my opinion. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by VillageIdiot Well Stated Sir |
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Quote:Originally Posted by OGJackster In fairness, I think the OP's question has been well answered. Probably not what he/she wanted to hear, but answered in full |
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| To the original poster's question; @Tony yes, send it in for VSP and grading. It will result in something you can live with. | ||
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