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Collector 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
Seller claims 9.0.

This is my grail at 8.0 (minimum).

I don't think it's a 9.0. But if we agree it's an 8.0, I'm in.

They claim to be the original owner. I've e-mailed them to ask about restoration.


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Collector vacaboca private msg quote post Address this user
The pictures aren't great, but I can't see this being anywhere near an 8.0 :/ presumably others will be a better eye than I.
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Collector 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
Yeah. These are the pics he provided.

It looks like maybe 6.5. It's a pretty sharp copy for its age, but a 9.0 it is not.
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Collector VillageIdiot private msg quote post Address this user
That book is no higher than a Fine 6.0 in my opinion. Oh, furthermore, any seller claiming said book to be a VF/NM 9.0 copy? I would not buy from!
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Collector Elvinv private msg quote post Address this user
Definetly not an 8.0
5.5-6.5
Is that tape back cover top right corner?
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Collector Deadpoolica private msg quote post Address this user
6.5
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Collector 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
I saw that. That picture is in the bag, so, it might be on the bag. But if not, that's huge.
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Collector gman private msg quote post Address this user
not an 8.0...the top front cover brings it down. Leave it in a mylar and admire.
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Collector 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
Thanks, guys, I'll pass on it.

I got excited and almost jumped on it before inspecting it close enough. It was within my budget & supposedly my target grade. Appreciate the help.
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Collector Homer private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by 00slim
Thanks, guys, I'll pass on it.

I got excited and almost jumped on it before inspecting it close enough. It was within my budget & supposedly my target grade. Appreciate the help.


I would recommend you buy a certified copy, this book is way off on an 8.0 or better grade.
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Dude, you're gettin' a Dell earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user
Oh hell no that thing is a hunk of shit. Wait and buy one you can see better. I zoomed in for 2 seconds and said not anywhere near a 8.0
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Collector 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
I also noticed it's miswrapped at the staples. I believe that's a full grade drop.
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Collector Homer private msg quote post Address this user
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I also noticed it's miswrapped at the staples. I believe that's a full grade drop.


No the miswrap will not drop the grade. It’s the tanning, edge tears, dirty dinging cover, creases, and tape on spine. Will drop this below a fine.
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Collector 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
True. I was just pointing out the miswrap as an additional issue.
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Collector Thanatos private msg quote post Address this user
Between the tape on the spine and damage to the top center on the front cover, no way this ever had a chance at a 8.0. I can't imagine what resource the seller is using to grade his comics? Glad you didn't impulsively send this guy the funds for this comic, you can definitely do better. I know how bad you want that 8.0, you'll find it in time!
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Collector 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
Thanks, @Thanatos. πŸ‘πŸΌ

Yeah, the tape is a real killer. If I'd got it in the mail & saw tape on it, I would have been pissed.
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Collector JustThatGuy private msg quote post Address this user
based on some of my other books: 5.0-5.5 looks like a 3/4" tear on the top with a huge 2.5-3" color break crease on the top, another 2.5 bend on the back running near the lower staple, and a bunch of other imperfections. no way of a snowball in hell a 9.0. if thats a 9.0, then i have a 10.1 hulk 181.
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Collector DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user
:popcorn:
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COLLECTOR drchaos private msg quote post Address this user
Your New Year's resolution should be to buy a better scanner.
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Collector 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
Oh, these pics are from the e-bay listing. πŸ‘πŸΌ
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Collector Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
I think we've well established this is well below 8.0. But another way to confirm the seller is a high risk of overgrazing is to look at his/her other auctions...see if they also are suspect.
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Collector 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
Yeah. I'm definitely passing on it.

Looks like he doesn't often assert grades. He has a Tales of Suspense 57 he claims is 9.2-9.4.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F142643773266
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Dude, you're gettin' a Dell earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user
Didn't I some it up in my original post?
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Collector BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by VillageIdiot
That book is no higher than a Fine 6.0 in my opinion. Oh, furthermore, any seller claiming said book to be a VF/NM 9.0 copy? I would not buy from!


Much Agreed. Also the lack of a detailed description and awful Scan/Pics is more than enough to land this hack on my "Do Not Buy" From list.
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Collector 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
You certainly did, @earthshaker01. You're the man.
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