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Collector CEPubDude private msg quote post Address this user
Hey Everybody,

I was just wondering everyone's opinions are about newsstand verses direct edition values? It seems plausible that newsstand survival rarity should impact a books value... And I'm not sure if CBCS takes newsstand or direct edition when grading into consideration or not.

But I found an interesting article about it that explains some of the newsstand #s for rarity. Especially in the end of the Newsstand lifecycle of the late 90's.
https://rarecomics.wordpress.com/newsstand-vs-direct-edition-comics/

And Mile High comics tacks a very hefty premium on their newsstand book pricing as well. I'm just curious what the experts here at CBCS thought about it?

Also, what the heck is Jewel/Newsstand? The Jewel part isn't something I was aware of. Another thing on Mile High I see allot.

Thanks for your opinions...
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
I wrote a very hefty article on the subject in May of this year actually: http://blog.kaptainmyke.com/?p=1168

ok so it's not as hefty as the article you posted LOL

but I still agree 100% Newsstands over direct market editions any day of the week for me
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Collector Deadpoolica private msg quote post Address this user
I'm assuming the Jewel/Newstand is referring to the ones with a Mark Jewelers insert
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
Probably.

I have Amazing Spider-man issues #110-#280 that are ALL Mark Jewelers Inserts that I got from a seller who lived near an army base. Pretty cool, actually!
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Collector cbj102 private msg quote post Address this user
Great article and grid kaptainmyke!

And yeah I wouldn't go crazy but most definitely keep an eye out for them. Especially if like me you frequent flea markets often like I do.
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Collector martymann private msg quote post Address this user
Grades being equal, would this newsstand copy have that much
greater value than a Direct Delivery Edition?




mm
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Collector Hcanes private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by kaptainmyke
Probably.

I have Amazing Spider-man issues #110-#280 that are ALL Mark Jewelers Inserts that I got from a seller who lived near an army base. Pretty cool, actually!


As an unknowing kid I used to tear these out the minute I got out of the PX.
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Collector OrbitCityComics private msg quote post Address this user
Given a choice, I'll buy direct market every time.

I hate barcodes,especially on the front of a book.
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
It's a pretty 50/50 divided group here on the subject, lol. Paging @shrewbeer to the newsstand thread!
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Collector CEPubDude private msg quote post Address this user
Nice! Great comments... Yeah I just as a preference look for bar codes first.

According to Mile High that Man of Steel is $17 Direct, $20 NS in their store. However issue #18 is $36 Direct and $90 NS. No way in heck I'd pay that premium, but searching back issue $1 bins would grab it.


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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
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Given a choice, I'll buy direct market every time.

I hate barcodes,especially on the front of a book.


+1 almost.

I don't "hate" them. But those without a bar code are better looking covers.

But I also like rarity over looks, so it is a tough call.

I would not pay a premium more than a couple of dollars. UNLESS it was an issue that I have seen many people searching for a newsstand edition.

If I was selling two identical issues, but one was a newsstand and one was direct market. I would sell them both for the same price.
But I would pay a couple or few dollars more for a ten dollar book that was newsstand and published after year 2000.
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Collector canadianspiderman private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by conditionfreak
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrbitCityComics
Given a choice, I'll buy direct market every time.

I hate barcodes,especially on the front of a book.


+1 almost.

I don't "hate" them. But those without a bar code are better looking covers.

But I also like rarity over looks, so it is a tough call.

I would not pay a premium more than a couple of dollars. UNLESS it was an issue that I have seen many people searching for a newsstand edition.

If I was selling two identical issues, but one was a newsstand and one was direct market. I would sell them both for the same price.
But I would pay a couple or few dollars more for a ten dollar book that was newsstand and published after year 2000.


I've been waiting for this moment, you variant hunter you. Jokes.

All jokes aside, I purposely search out newsstands newer than 2000 - they're hard to find, costly, and even harder to find in higher grade - my collection is strictly Amazing Spider-Man, there's only about 100 newsstands or so I've yet to find between issues 500-700. When I do find them, I'll have both the direct AND newsstands of each issue between 165-700. Kinda cool? I Guess?
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Collector Odins_Raven private msg quote post Address this user
It could just be me but has anyone else noticed that the newsstand editions from the mid 80's to the early 90's seem to fetch slightly higher premiums or be more sought after than the newsstand editions from other eras?
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
It's probably because it's harder to maintain a high grade on comics that were sitting on wire racks at grocery stores.
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Collector Odins_Raven private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by kaptainmyke
It's probably because it's harder to maintain a high grade on comics that were sitting on wire racks at grocery stores.


Very true, plus the direct market really took off in the early 90's, right?
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
skyrocketed and then collapsed short of its distance, like a north korean missle
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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
@CEPubDude certain direct books that go for under $100-$200 in 9.8 all day long will pop up in newsstand just a few times a year in that grade; and crazies like me will be happy to pay double, if not more. The worst ratio I ever spent was $350 for a book that would go for $60-$80 in direct.

CBCS does differentiate between them on the label.

It's not that newsstands in general are rare, its that they are extremely rare in HIGH grade.

Hope that helps 🍺
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Collector canadianspiderman private msg quote post Address this user
CBCS only differentiates up until like 2004 or something though. Not sure why they don't recognize them in years since then.
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by shrewbeer
CBCS does differentiate between them on the label.


not after the year 2000. as evidenced here:

































makes no sense! the ratio of print runs decrease after 2000. you would THINK that CBCS would recognize this rarity on the label. BAH
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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
Then there are direct edition books with bar codes.

It would be awesome if all books were virgin covers. Artwork would be even more appreciated by us. Put the issue number real tiny on the top left of the front cover. I mean real tiny.
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
not only that - but Marvel pulled out of the newsstand race last year, too!
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by conditionfreak
Then there are direct edition books with bar codes.


Those with barcodes and direct edition will say "DIRECT EDITION" over the barcodes. That's what most direct comics are now. Those are not newsstands.
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Collector canadianspiderman private msg quote post Address this user
@kaptainmyke I thought it was in 2014 Marvel pulled out? I can't remember the exact year cbcs recognizes to, but I searched it here in the form and it was posted.

I've got an ASM 611 9.8 that's newsstand graded by CGC and it's not noted on there either - wrong labels happen sometimes (no 9.8 newsstand on the census, but my book is definitely newsstand - perhaps the only one graded by CGC?). I've got a 606 9.8 newsstand as well! I don't figure there are too many of those.
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Found it, 2000 it is. Not sure why it's stuck at that year, doesn't make much sense.
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
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@kaptainmyke I thought it was in 2014 Marvel pulled out? I can't remember the exact year cbcs recognizes to, but I searched it here in the form and it was posted.


You could be right. I'm not sure if it was 2014, 2015, or last year. I only said last year because some books-a-million stores were selling marvel comics according to facebook friends.





I been saying CBCS stops at 2000. They should stop at 2015 or 2016. Newsstands are dead. You can only buy comics online or through diamond at a LCS. That's why Newsstand Editions matter.

#NEWSSTANDSMATTER
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Collector canadianspiderman private msg quote post Address this user
DC hasn't killed newsstands yet have they?
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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by kaptainmyke
I been saying CBCS stops at 2000. They should stop at 2015 or 2016. Newsstands are dead. You can only buy comics online or through diamond at a LCS. That's why Newsstand Editions matter.

#NEWSSTANDSMATTER


They shouldn't stop at all, until there are no more newsstands. It makes zero sense, and I've asked several without ever getting an answer.

DC still sells on newsstands, certain books.

Marvel killed it around '13, possibly '14
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Collector willieCPA4646 private msg quote post Address this user
The last DC I was able to find through the "newsstand" market (it was actually in the magazine section of our main grocery store in town) was a copy of Batman #40 (Scott Snyder & Greg Capullo, with Danny Miki). The "newsstand" book was actually priced one dollar higher (at $ 4.99) than the direct market edition.

After that, the comics pretty much disappeared from the grocery store magazine section.
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COLLECTOR CFP_Comics private msg quote post Address this user
The CGC boards has a fantastic discussing going on that mirrors this thread regarding newsstand editions. It can be found in comics general.
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