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Collector jrs private msg quote post Address this user
This position makes sense. These booklets look like they were cheaply made to begin with, so they are probably easy to reproduce.
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Collector jrs private msg quote post Address this user
I should note that by "this position," I am referring to the post by @SteveRicketts.
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
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After getting one in for grading, it was determined that the booklet is too easy to reproduce, so CBCS will not be grading them at this time. We already had this rule in place for similar items.

I do have the copies that Scorpion sent in. I'll do an analysis on them and let you guys know what I find.

Sorry for jumping the gun. We couldn't make a determination for sure until we had one in hand.


I'm calling you out, Steve. It's easy to reproduce. But it's easier to tell a fake from a real one.

Lame. I guess I know where to go from here on out.

Moving on, I guess.
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
So did any of us decide what to determine about the MADMAN edition of these books? I have another random person emailing me asking if his is real because he paid $150 Australian Dollars for his.


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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
Pretty sure madman was just distributor in Australia, so it should be real considering that the madman stamp was the only thing available in Australia
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@kaptainmyke

I purchased a Madman copy the other day off eBay but it’s yet to arrive. Once I get it I’ll post pics of it next to the other copies I have.

I never heard back from Madman in regards to more information about the book. It did seam odd that they wouldn’t reveal anything else. We’ll see how it compares to the legit copy I have.
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What I'd like to know is how CBCS can make that determination not even knowing if the book they were looking at was real.

If you're holding one of the fakes, yes, I can see looking at that and saying crap this thing was printed on somebody's inkjet and anybody can make 1000 of them with a hand stapler and some scissors; not the case with the real one though, it's much better quality
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This position makes sense. These booklets look like they were cheaply made to begin with, so they are probably easy to reproduce.


Did someone say easy to reproduce?


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So did any of us decide what to determine about the MADMAN edition of these books? I have another random person emailing me asking if his is real because he paid $150 Australian Dollars for his.

@shrewbeer

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Pretty sure madman was just distributor in Australia, so it should be real considering that the madman stamp was the only thing available in Australia





It would seem the Madmen versions are legit, why would an official distributor produce a counterfeit?

I think the question is, are they reprints?
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Collector KiloGraham private msg quote post Address this user
If the madmen logo is a stamp placed on the original then I'd say it's an original. But if it's been reprinted with the logo I'd say that's not real and a reproduction.
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I found out more about Madman Entertainment. They are a legally licensed bootlegger for Australia. I do not call them first printings. If anything, they were legally allowed to reproduce them for sale in a foreign country. That points to reproduction.

These Madman books also feature a semi gloss cover. Big mistake if you ask me.
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Collector CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user
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legally licensed bootlegger


Now, that that's an oxymoron!
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Collector KiloGraham private msg quote post Address this user
I'd say Austrailian version would be a foreign reprint, similar to panini reprints, if it were licensed
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Collector Garnett21k private msg quote post Address this user
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@kaptainmyke

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legally licensed bootlegger


Now, that that's an oxymoron!


I was thinking the same thing! 😂😂😂
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
Thanks, I was trying to be funny. I agree they should be considered foreign editions, but only if they are actually from the same batch of first printings from 2014. Which I doubt, btw
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1 in 5 Australians are descendants of penal colony transports.
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1 in 5 Australians are descendants of penal colony transports.


That's random.
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
Madman is a wholesale distribution center for DVDs and Blu-rays. Licensed or not, this points to mass production of movie media - either way you slice it. At the bottom of their "about us" page, it even states their production and design team is: "The workhorse of the business, our huge and dedicated production team never fails to amaze us with its ability to deliver finished stock of exceptional quality on time and on budget. Alongside our studio of 25 talented designers, headed up by our highly experienced creative director, the production team are experts in every area of DVD production including: slick and DVD menu design, disc authoring, ad design and art direction, TVC production and much more.

http://www.madman.com.au/
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Collector CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user
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Discs, cases and inserts may have all been made there from digital files, instead of importing.
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
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Discs, cases and inserts may have all been made there from digital files, instead of importing.


Totally 110% agree. They shouldn't use semigloss covers tho and a stamp right? Unless that's how to "identify a real madman" lulz
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Discs, cases and inserts may have all been made there from digital files, instead of importing.


Totally 110% agree. They shouldn't use semigloss covers tho and a stamp right? Unless that's how to "identify a real madman" lulz


If so, It would deem the Madman version a reprint.
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Collector IntoAnother private msg quote post Address this user
If they were given permission to reprint them wouldn’t it be an industry standard to remove any indication that it is from a “1st Edition”?
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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
It would just be a foreign edition then, no? Easily identifiable at least
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Collector CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user
I looked at "1st Edition" as part of the parody.
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
All fakes.
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So did any of us decide what to determine about the MADMAN edition of these books? I have another random person emailing me asking if his is real because he paid $150 Australian Dollars for his.





Wouldn't a stamp just be one colour? Doesn't that look like its printed into it making it a new printing and not a first print genuine copy?
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
That's a good point. That's a 2 color 2 stage process on the plates.
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This position makes sense. These booklets look like they were cheaply made to begin with, so they are probably easy to reproduce.


No, it doesn't make sense. I wrote a [bleeping] [bleeping] 40 page document on how you can tell the differences. I have at minimum 2 people per day emailing me about this [bleeping] subject now.

This isn't a copy of Gobbedlygook for [bleeping] sake. It's not the same. Google that one if you don't understand the reference. That's an entirely other different rabbit hole.

Gobbledygook #1 (Mirage: 1984)
Some counterfeits are designated by having a yellow cover/interior with a badly forged Keven Eastman signature inside saying "_ of 500". Others may have a blue cover. Only 50 were made of the genuine comic and they were not numbered/signed. Other counterfeits have darkened interior cover art on glossy white pages with an Eastman signature saying "_ of 150".
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Here’s the seller who has sold a few copies of the Madman version.

The-Good-Morty Mini Comic -1st Appearance of Rick and Morty,1st Edition (New) https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F122788446885

As you can see in the pic the Blu Ray also has the Madman logo on it. Those of you with legit Blu Ray’s may be able to compare the case/discs a bit more than myself as I don’t have one from the first release.




After the last response they gave me declining to give me any information about them I’m not even sure we will ever have the complete story behind these.

Safe assumption they made the discs, cases, and Good Morty’s themself?
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