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Collector Symbiote private msg quote post Address this user
The answer to this may be obvious, but I've been wondering if the grading game is very profitable (if you're not CGC)? For instance, I'm curious as to whether CBCS is raking in the dough, making a decent living or barely breaking even and doing it for the love of the game.
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The answer to this may be obvious, but I've been wondering if the grading game is very profitable (if you're not CGC)? For instance, I'm curious as to whether CBCS is raking in the dough, making a decent living or barely breaking even and doing it for the love of the game.

I'm pretty sure they're making good money
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For the love of the game? Are you serious?
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For the love of the game? Are you serious?


Yes, I included three options to round out my question and tie it into my first sentence lol. I overthink sometimes.
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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
I'm laughing with you, not at you.
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Collector keefriffhards private msg quote post Address this user
Making slightly less than Clark Kent did at the Daily Planet, but more than Barbara Gorden did at her day job.... so about the Same as Bruce Banner when not being the Incredible Hulk... so my guess is not mega bucks but enough to keep doing it.
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I ponder this because of the turn around times. If they are super-busy, why not employ more staff? I guess one answer could be that they don't want to be overstaffed in case of a lull in submissions.
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I found an actual office photo...
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Collector Symbiote private msg quote post Address this user
@keefriffhards

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I found an actual office photo...


This must be the department that grades Golden Age issues.
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Any new business is going to go through growing pains; problems happen problems need to be solved,Systems and protocol to sort out, and that costs a lot of money. They don't have 75 grand laying around to buy magazine sized moulds, so I would say no, they are not "raking it in"*

*Yet 😁
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I would guess that since CGC has seen two co form after them, some things have changed...
* lot more people are getting grading in bulk numbers

* grading is done on hopefully near mint to mint issues, even new stuff

bulk submissions keep the companies and the investor groups hopeful
of the more potential growth.
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Collector Symbiote private msg quote post Address this user
@shrewbeer

Agreed
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@keefriffhards

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I found an actual office photo...


This must be the department that grades Golden Age issues.


Lol,... That was funny
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Just a bit of a history lesson, CBCS officially began in July, 2014. They started with either 5 or 6 people TOTAL. Last I heard, they now have over 20 graders plus all the other employees. CBCS has CONSTANTLY stated that they are always looking for graders. From what I understand, you have to have at least a working knowledge of grading comics. Then they train you from there. This is not a job where they can drop people into with a days worth of training. Plus, they underestimated the demand. Withing six months, they were getting submissions in the numbers that they thought they wouldn't see until they were in business for a couple years. I don't think they knew how many people didn't use CGC (for any myriad of reasons) and were just WAITING for a viable alternative. (Like I was)
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Any new business is going to go through growing pains; problems happen problems need to be solved,Systems and protocol to sort out, and that costs a lot of money. They don't have 75 grand laying around to buy magazine sized moulds, so I would say no, they are not "raking it in"*

*Yet 😁
In these cases don't assume anything. And, in the case of the much wanted magazine grading from CBCS. Not only the high cost of "magazine sized molds" but the entire logistics and application of same would be a massive undertaking, one that needs the proper lengthy time frame to plan, design, house, equip, staff and finance.
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Any new business is going to go through growing pains; problems happen problems need to be solved,Systems and protocol to sort out, and that costs a lot of money. They don't have 75 grand laying around to buy magazine sized moulds, so I would say no, they are not "raking it in"*

*Yet 😁
In these cases don't assume anything. And, in the case of the much wanted magazine grading from CBCS. Not only the high cost of "magazine sized molds" but the entire logistics and application of same would be a massive undertaking, one that needs the proper lengthy time frame to plan, design, house, equip, staff and finance.


When members here are asking for magazine grading, are they looking for magazine-sized comic grading (like Savage Sword of Conan, for example) or are they looking for magazines in general?

I believe CGC grades non-comic magazines, but only Playboy and Sports Illustrated at the moment.
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#GLOM DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
@Symbiote magazine size comics, like early TMNT, and old horror comics.
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I'm laughing with you, not at you.

Not me.
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Collector RRO private msg quote post Address this user
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Any new business is going to go through growing pains; problems happen problems need to be solved,Systems and protocol to sort out, and that costs a lot of money. They don't have 75 grand laying around to buy magazine sized moulds, so I would say no, they are not "raking it in"*

*Yet 😁
In these cases don't assume anything. And, in the case of the much wanted magazine grading from CBCS. Not only the high cost of "magazine sized molds" but the entire logistics and application of same would be a massive undertaking, one that needs the proper lengthy time frame to plan, design, house, equip, staff and finance.


When members here are asking for magazine grading, are they looking for magazine-sized comic grading (like Savage Sword of Conan, for example) or are they looking for magazines in general?

I believe CGC grades non-comic magazines, but only Playboy and Sports Illustrated at the moment.

CGC grades any comics-related or similar magazines, eg. Vampire Tales(Marvel) Psycho(Skywald) Vampirella(Warren) Mad(EC) even National Lampoon, Omni, TMNT(Mirage) Amazing World of DC Comics(DC) and perhaps Barber Shop/Men's Adventure types.
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I'm laughing with you, not at you.

Not me.


Doc?
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Collector Symbiote private msg quote post Address this user
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Any new business is going to go through growing pains; problems happen problems need to be solved,Systems and protocol to sort out, and that costs a lot of money. They don't have 75 grand laying around to buy magazine sized moulds, so I would say no, they are not "raking it in"*

*Yet 😁
In these cases don't assume anything. And, in the case of the much wanted magazine grading from CBCS. Not only the high cost of "magazine sized molds" but the entire logistics and application of same would be a massive undertaking, one that needs the proper lengthy time frame to plan, design, house, equip, staff and finance.


When members here are asking for magazine grading, are they looking for magazine-sized comic grading (like Savage Sword of Conan, for example) or are they looking for magazines in general?

I believe CGC grades non-comic magazines, but only Playboy and Sports Illustrated at the moment.

CGC grades any comics-related or similar magazines, eg. Vampire Tales(Marvel) Psycho(Skywald) Vampirella(Warren) Mad(EC) even National Lampoon, Omni, TMNT(Mirage) Amazing World of DC Comics(DC) and perhaps Barber Shop/Men's Adventure types.


Appreciated 👍🏻
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I'm laughing with you, not at you.

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Doc?

I'm laughing at you. Love of the game, indeed.

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I'm laughing with you, not at you.

Not me.


Doc?

I'm laughing at you. Love of the game, indeed.


Doc's diagnosis is that @SteveBorock is only in it for the money?
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For the love of the game? Are you serious?


Don't know why I cracked up at this one... timing was right...😎
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Collector Savage_Spawn private msg quote post Address this user
Hopefully CBCS is raking in the big batch of 💰💰💰💰💰Benjies....
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Collector CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user
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For the love of the game? Are you serious?


Don't know why I cracked up at this one... timing was right...😎


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@keefriffhards

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I found an actual office photo...


This must be the department that grades Golden Age issues.


It's all about the timing lol
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Collector IronMan private msg quote post Address this user
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The answer to this may be obvious, but I've been wondering if the grading game is very profitable (if you're not CGC)? For instance, I'm curious as to whether CBCS is raking in the dough, making a decent living or barely breaking even and doing it for the love of the game.


It's difficult to impossible to know what the balance sheets look like on privately held companies that aren't seeking investors, applying for credit or wanting to go public. It would be like me asking you how much you make. You could tell me it's none of my business, you could tell me a lie.

This is year three. They have added staff. We can assume CBCS isn't losing money
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I'm laughing with you, not at you.

Not me.


Doc?

I'm laughing at you. Love of the game, indeed.


Doc's diagnosis is that @SteveBorock is only in it for the money?


That's not what he said.

I know Steve loves comic books and loves what he does.

I'm also fairly certain he wouldn't just do it for free
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Collector IronMan private msg quote post Address this user
It's common advice with motivational speakers to find a job you'd do for free if you could afford to - then get good enough at that job to get paid. The idea being if you work a job you'd do for free then you never really work a day the rest of your life.

Li'l Abner had a job as a mattress tester. He got paid to sleep all day at the Stunned Ox mattress company to see if the mattresses were any good.
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It's common advice with motivational speakers to find a job you'd do for free if you could afford to - then get good enough at that job to get paid. The idea being if you work a job you'd do for free then you never really work a day the rest of your life.

Li'l Abner had a job as a mattress tester. He got paid to sleep all day at the Stunned Ox mattress company to see if the mattresses were any good.


Easy for them to say when they have a sham of a job

Don't give advice based on a comic strip character lol
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